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Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sat May 18, 2013 5:21 am

Hi I'm a new paying user of DAWOSC. I've just tried going through the setup instructions that are on the site, I originally ran into a problem with the newest version of Pure Data not having any "startup..." entry under the File-> menu but after downloading an older version of Pure Data I managed to configure it to load dawosc.pd on startup. The problem now is that even though I feel like I've gone through all the setup instructions correctly I don't seem to get any communication between my Nexus 7 and computer, despite entering my IP address in the app and starting dawosc.pd first.

I suspect it has something to do with connecting the 2 over wireless, any advice?

Thanks,
J

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Sat May 18, 2013 8:43 am

hey J

Here are some things you can check:

The version of PureData that I've been using is 0.42.5 Is the version you found earlier than that?

Try this:

- Close the app and PureData

- start PureData on your computer
- in PureData, go to Media -> MIDI Settings and select LoopBe for the Input device #1 and for the Output device #1

- Start DAWOSC
- in DAWOSC, go to Preferences and enter the IP address of your computer in the Preferences (make sure you enter the IP address of your computer. Many people accidentally enter the IP address of their router)3
- get out of the Preferences in DAWOSC
- just to be sure, close DAWOSC and re-start it
- in the DAWOSC Preferences, make sure that "Send MIDI Messages" is checked

That should do it.

You can verify that it's working by doing this:
Make the DAWOSC.pd window wide so that you see all the top of the window. Now move a fader in DAWOSC. You should see numbers change in the DAWOSC.pd window. I attached a screenshot to show you what I'm talking about.

If you're not seeing the numbers change, then you've probably entered the wrong IP address of your computer. Also, try disabling your firewall (just temporarily) to see if that fixes it.

Hope this fixes things for you! Let me know if it doesn't.



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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sat May 18, 2013 7:56 pm

Hi thanks for the speedy reply, I originally tried using pd 43.4 but as I said, no startup option so I downloaded 41.4 to replicate what was on the screenshot of the DAWOSC setup instructions page. I've checked that I've entered the proper IP address and specified LoopBe but I can't get any numbers to move in the pd patch. I'm thinking maybe I have to open the relevant ports in my router's settings?

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Sat May 18, 2013 8:17 pm

When you start DAWOSC, do you see the message "port 8080 opened" or something like that in the PureData window? If not, then check your OSC ports in the DAWOSC preferences. Make they're set to the defaults (8080 and 8001).

If the ports are set properly, try turning off your firewall to see if that's causing the problem. Like you also asked, you might also have open the ports in your router.

It does sound like a network issue though.

Hope that helps Smile

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sun May 19, 2013 6:43 am

Well I don't know what happened, but it now seems to be transmitting data! Thanks!

However I'm now having a problem with a test patch I've created where my button seems to be sending messages sometimes but not all the time and my VU verticals don't transmit anything at all, any insights there?

This is my patch as a text file:

Version: 3.41
Layout Name: DAWOSCPatchA01
Grid Size: 152
Screen Width: 1280
Screen Height: 800
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
--- controller ---
Controller Type: Label
Controller X Position: 15
Controller Y Position: 15
Controller Width: 167
Controller Height: 319
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 0
Note/CC #: 0
MIDI Data Type: Note
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 150
Forecolor G: 0
Forecolor B: 0
Forecolor O: 0
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label:
Front-Back: 0
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 29
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Button - Push
Controller X Position: 30
Controller Y Position: 30
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 61
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 1
Note/CC #: 3
MIDI Data Type: CC
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: No
Forecolor R: 191
Forecolor G: 191
Forecolor B: 191
Forecolor O: 255
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label: LFO
Front-Back: 0
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 21
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: VU - Vertical
Controller X Position: 106
Controller Y Position: 30
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 258
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Float
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 1
Note/CC #: 1
MIDI Data Type: CC
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 255
Forecolor G: 255
Forecolor B: 255
Forecolor O: 255
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label:
Front-Back: 1
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 10
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: Yes

--- controller ---
Controller Type: VU - Vertical
Controller X Position: 30
Controller Y Position: 106
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 182
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 1
Note/CC #: 2
MIDI Data Type: CC
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 255
Forecolor G: 255
Forecolor B: 255
Forecolor O: 255
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label:
Front-Back: 2
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 10
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: Yes

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Button - Push
Controller X Position: 106
Controller Y Position: 289
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 30
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 0
Note/CC #: 0
MIDI Data Type: Note
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 150
Forecolor G: 0
Forecolor B: 0
Forecolor O: 0
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 0
Screen Label: RATE
Front-Back: 2
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 0
Fontsize: 18
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Button - Push
Controller X Position: 30
Controller Y Position: 289
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 30
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 0
Note/CC #: 0
MIDI Data Type: Note
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 150
Forecolor G: 0
Forecolor B: 0
Forecolor O: 0
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 0
Screen Label: DEPTH
Front-Back: 3
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 0
Fontsize: 18
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No


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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Sun May 19, 2013 8:33 am

I found your problem. There were two problems with your layout.

The first problem is that you're using VU's instead of faders. VU's are used for displaying data from your DAW, such as volume. The don't send any data and they don't react when you touch them. What you should be using are "Fader - Vertical".

The other problem is that the label that you used for the border was not set to the back. By selecting the button and clicking on "Bring to Front", you bring the button on top of the label and then it works fine. It's hard to spot a problem like this in your layout because you set the backcolor opacity of the label to 0, which essentially makes the label transparent. So it's best to select the controllers inside the label and click on "Bring to Front", just to be safe when the label's opacity is 0.

Here's your updated layout. Let me know if you're still having problems Smile

Version: 3.41
Layout Name: DAWOSCPatchA01
Grid Size: 152
Screen Width: 1280
Screen Height: 752
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
--- controller ---
Controller Type: Label
Controller X Position: 15
Controller Y Position: 15
Controller Width: 167
Controller Height: 319
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 0
Note/CC #: 0
MIDI Data Type: Note
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 150
Forecolor G: 0
Forecolor B: 0
Forecolor O: 0
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 255
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label:
Front-Back: 0
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 29
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Button - Push
Controller X Position: 30
Controller Y Position: 30
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 61
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 1
Note/CC #: 3
MIDI Data Type: CC
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: No
Forecolor R: 191
Forecolor G: 191
Forecolor B: 191
Forecolor O: 255
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label: LFO
Front-Back: 1
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 21
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Fader - Vertical
Controller X Position: 106
Controller Y Position: 30
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 258
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Float
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 1
Note/CC #: 1
MIDI Data Type: CC
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 255
Forecolor G: 255
Forecolor B: 255
Forecolor O: 255
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label:
Front-Back: 2
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 10
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: Yes

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Label
Controller X Position: 106
Controller Y Position: 289
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 30
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 0
Note/CC #: 0
MIDI Data Type: Note
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 150
Forecolor G: 0
Forecolor B: 0
Forecolor O: 0
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 0
Screen Label: RATE
Front-Back: 2
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 0
Fontsize: 18
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Label
Controller X Position: 30
Controller Y Position: 289
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 30
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 0
Note/CC #: 0
MIDI Data Type: Note
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 150
Forecolor G: 0
Forecolor B: 0
Forecolor O: 0
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 0
Screen Label: DEPTH
Front-Back: 2
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 0
Fontsize: 18
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: No

--- controller ---
Controller Type: Fader - Vertical
Controller X Position: 30
Controller Y Position: 106
Controller Width: 61
Controller Height: 182
OSC Prefix:
OSC Data Type: Integer
OSC Velocity Sensitive: No
OSC CC #1 OFF/Min Value: 0
OSC CC #1 ON/Max Value: 1
OSC CC #2 Min Value: 0
OSC CC #2 Max Value: 1
OSC Send OFF Command: Yes
MIDI Channel: 1
Note/CC #: 2
MIDI Data Type: CC
MIDI Velocity Sensitive: No
CC #1 OFF/Min: 0
CC #1 ON/Max: 127
CC #2: 0
CC #2 Min: 0
CC #2 Max: 127
MIDI Send OFF Command: Yes
Forecolor R: 255
Forecolor G: 255
Forecolor B: 255
Forecolor O: 255
Backcolor R: 0
Backcolor G: 0
Backcolor B: 0
Backcolor O: 0
Textcolor R: 255
Textcolor G: 255
Textcolor B: 255
Textcolor O: 255
Bordercolor R: 255
Bordercolor G: 255
Bordercolor B: 255
Bordercolor O: 255
Screen Label:
Front-Back: 2
Allow Sliding: No
Border Width: 3
Fontsize: 10
Switch to Layout:
Direction: Normal
Show All Incoming MIDI Messages: No
Show All Incoming OSC Messages: No
Show Value: Yes


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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sun May 19, 2013 9:03 am

Great! Thanks alot! My faders work now!
I also managed to get the button working but, while it seems able to turn my DAW's switches on it doesn't seem to turn them off, in fact it doesn't seem to send any messages after the initial press, I've made sure the "send OFF command" is ticked in the layout editor, is there something I've missed there?

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Sun May 19, 2013 9:37 am

In the Pure Data window, look at the gray boxes under "ctlin". When you push the button, you should see 1, 3, 127. When you push it again to turn it off, you should see 1,3,0. If you see that, then DAWOSC is working properly.

The updated template that I posted for you didn't have "Send OFF Command" checked, so double-check the layout and make sure the latest layout is on your device. Also, make sure that you've got the latest version of DAWOSC. I've fixed a few issues buttons in the past few days.

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sun May 19, 2013 6:29 pm

Excellent it's working! Thanks!

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Sun May 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Great! Glad it's working Smile

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sun May 19, 2013 8:23 pm

Thanks for your patience and the great support! I can see this app becoming an essential part of my setup

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Sun May 19, 2013 9:21 pm

I'm more than happy to help out Smile

And I'm glad you like DAWOSC. There's a lot of new features coming out in the next few months, including graphics and pictures.

If you have any features that you'd like to see in DAWOSC, just post them in the 'Feature Request' section of this forum Smile

Most of the features in DAWSOSC come from user's ideas!

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Jdudeo on Sun May 19, 2013 9:38 pm

As long as rounded corners is on the list I'll be happy!

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Re: Problems with setup..

Post  Admin on Mon May 20, 2013 5:59 am

Yup, rounded corners will be coming back. I removed it temporarily because there were some graphics issues with faders and XY Pads.

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